The Australian Commando Memorial was dedicated on 16 November 1964 by the Lieutenant Governor of Victoria Lieutenant General Sir Edmund Herring. It was erected under the auspices of the Commando Association (Victoria) by Australian Commandos. The memorial ‘was erected to commemorate the birthplace of the commando in Australia and in memory of all the commandos who made the supreme sacrifice in World War II.’
The restored memorial was rededicated by the Premier of Victoria, John Brumby on 18 November 2007.
This brochure was written by Garrie Hutchinson in November 2007 for the rededication of the memorial.
Military Mission 104
Military Mission 104 led by Lieutenant Colonel JC Mawhood arrived in November 1940 with the idea of raising and training British style ‘special’ or ‘commando’ units, which had proved successful in operating against German occupied Europe.
The Australian Army decided to raise four ‘independent’ companies and train them at the innocuously named No. 7 Infantry Training Centre at Wilson’s Promontory, a national park since 1898. It was an isolated area of high, rugged and heavily timbered mountains, precipitous valleys, swiftly running streams, and swamps, sand dunes, thick scrub, bays and cliffs.
The Prom was ‘ideally suited for training troops who might fight anywhere from the Libyan deserts to the jungles of New Guinea, the only drawback being that in winter … the climate was often more polar than tropical,’ as Captain Freddie Spencer Chapman instructor in fieldcraft wrote later.
Spencer Chapman was joined by Captain ‘Mad Mike’ Calvert, explosives; Sergeant Frank Misselbrook, signals; and Sergeant Peter Stafford, weapons to train the first Australian Independent Companies.
Spencer Chapman wrote that in the beginning: ‘We talked vaguely of guerrilla and irregular warfare, of special and para-military operations, stay-behind parties , resistance movements, sabotage and incendiarism, and darkly, and still more vaguely of ‘agents’; but the exact role of the … Independent Companies had never been made clear.’
The role of the Independent Companies would be ‘to stay behind, live off the country or be provisioned from the air, and be a thorn in the flesh of the occupying enemy, emerging in true guerrilla style to attack vital points and then disappear again into the jungle. We also visualised long range penetration of the enemy lines by parties highly skilled in fieldcraft and living off the country that they could attack their targets and get back without getting detected.’
The first three companies had completed were training by the second half of 1941. Initially destined for the Middle East, with Japanese threat growing, they were deployed in the islands to the north. The 2/1st Independent Company (sometimes just known as the 1st) was sent in sections to Manus, New Ireland, the Solomons, New Hebrides. The 2/2nd to Timor, and the 2/3rd to New Caledonia.
No. 7 Infantry Training Centre
No. 7 Infantry Training Centre was established in January 1941 and was renamed the Guerrilla Warfare School, Foster in 1942. The location was variously referred to as being at Foster, the closest town to Wilson’s Promontory; Tidal River or Darby where the two training camps were actually located.
It was initially commanded by Major WJR Scott DSO, and from May 1941 by Major Stuart Love. Eight Australian and two New Zealand independent companies – some 3,000 men – were trained before the Guerilla Warfare School was closed in November 1942. It was moved to Canungra in Queensland for conditions more appropriate to Australia’s tropical wartime needs. Another four companies 2/9, 2/10, 2/11, 2/12 were trained there.
The Camps
In 1941-1942 there were two camps at Wilson’s Promontory: one at Darby River and the other at Tidal River, with complete accommodation for a full independent company.
An Independent Company consisted of 273 officers and men – commanded by a Major. There were three platoons of 60 men led by a captain, consisting of three sections led by a lieutenant. Plus all the other services to enable the force to operate on its own – medical, engineers, sappers, transport.
No 1 Camp was in two sections at Darby River adjacent to the present day Lilly Pilly carpark. A chalet for visitors had been built south of the Darby River bridge in the 1930s after the road was constructed, and this served as the campsite for officers. When fully established the section north of the river had floored tents to sleep 35 NCOs and Sergeants, 46 Corporals and 62 OR.
Both had mess hits, lecture huts, ablutions, latrines, a combined kitchen, six bed camp dressing station, a signals workshop and explosives store.
“All troops, officer and men were quartered in tents at No 1 Camp, which was in the valley floor surrounded by timbered hills, named Bishop, Oberon and Bloodsweat.”
No 2 Camp was at Tidal River camping area
“All that was there as we approached the Prom on the right hand side was an administration hut, a cook house and the showers and mess hall. This was virtually all there was there. On the left hand side was virgin scrub and they said, ‘Dump all your kit bags here’ and within half an hour covered in sand. ‘Well there’s your camp area; there’s your tents. You go over and bash the scrub down and pitch your own tents.” Harry Levey, Harry Levey, 2/5th Independent Company.
Training
The training, wrote Spencer Chapman, was ‘as practical as we could make it. Calvert, with his infectious enthusiasm, taught them how to blow up everything from battleships to brigadiers . . . . I taught them how to get a party from A to B and back by day or night in any sort of country and arrive in a fit state to carry out their task. This included all kinds of sidelines —a new conception of fitness, knowledge of the night sky, what to wear, what to take and how to carry it, what to eat and how to cook it, how to live off the country, tracking, memorizing routes, and how to escape if caught by the enemy.’
Officer and NCOs had six weeks of intensive training, and then they trained other ranks for a further six weeks. An independent company was formed from those who were left standing.
A typical day was 8 am to 8.30 pm with fieldcraft experience, demolitions, a hill climb and swim, physical exercises, weapons training. Night lectures or a night march might follow including wading the Darby river in full battle dress or a map reading exercise combined with a cross-country ‘treasure hunt’.
Exercises were undertaken in full battle dress with full packs, using live ammunition and simulating war conditions. Soldiers were taught to blow up buildings, bridges and communications facilities and army vehicles as well as use field radios and coordinate activities with air drops of food and ammunition. Camouflage, ambush, lectures commando techniques and infiltration techniques were taught.
Training was “in very rugged conditions down there. Isolated rugged conditions. Hard – very hard training. On low rations – deliberately. The sort of thing they would do is take you out and march you to the other end of Wilson’s Promontory and back, without food and water, smoking, anything like that, and without talking.
“Say you’d come back from a long hard exercise, and you’d strike the road about five or six miles from the camp down near Tidal River. There’d be trucks waiting there. And they’d say, ‘If any fellow is a bit knocked up, hop on the truck, and we’ll take you back to camp.’ Any of those who hopped on the truck were foolish, because they just stopped long enough back at camp to pick up their pack, and they were back for reposting.
“They’d take you out at night, with no blankets – a lot of it was to test you temperamentally, to see if you could put up with this sort of thing. If you growled and grizzled, you were on your way back.
“Every man learnt to be a signaller, and learnt to use explosives. There were a few casualties of course during training – deaths and injuries and fellows lost fingers and hands and things like that.” Lieutenant Mick Sheehan 2/5th
‘On rare occasions a select few were allowed to go by trucks into the pictures at nearby Fish Creek. One night several very keen trainees and NCOs decided they would spring a surprise on the boys as they returned, by simulating the blowing up of a convoy. They only wanted to scare a truck load of boys so they dug a hole (for the charge) off the side of the road. When the trucks were only 100 yards away a trainee sergeant lit the fuse … things went terribly wrong. For some reason it was an instantaneous fuse, and it blew up the group. It killed the sergeant, and a corporal lost a leg, and another an eye. …’ Andy Pirie, 2/5th Independent Company
To war.
The 2/1st Independent Company and No 1 NZ Special Company started training officers in February 1941. 2/1st formed on finishing training in May.
– 2/1 Independent Company (raised Oct 1941), also known as 1st Independent Company. Served in New Hebrides, Manus, Solomons, New Ireland. Many 2/1st members were killed or captured in the defending New Ireland, and later lost when the POW ship Montevideo Maru was sunk by the US submarine Sturgeon.
– 2/2 Independent Company (raised Oct 1941). Served as a classic stay-behind unit in Timor, and later around Madang, the Ramu Valley and New Britain in New Guinea.
– 2/3 Independent Company (raised Oct 1941) Served first in New Caledonia, then in 1942 around Wau/Salamaua, and at Balikpapan Borneo in 1945
– 2/4 Independent Company (raised December 1941) Replaced the 2/2nd in Timor, and in 1943-44 served around Lae and the Huon Peninsula Finschafen, and in 1945 on Tarakan
– 2/5 Independent Company (raised March 1942) Served around Wau and Salamaua in 1942-43, and then in Balikpapan in 1945.
– 2/6 Independent Company (raised March 1942) Served on the Kokoda Track in 1942, then in the Ramu Valley and Balikpapan
– 2/7 Independent Company (raised March 1942) Served at Wau/Salamaua Madang, Ramu Valley and Wewak.
– 2/8 Independent Company (raised May 1942) served on Bougainville.
In 1943, the Australian Army reorganised its six frontline divisions as light infantry Divisions, and their cavalry squadrons were disbanded with the regimental headquarters being used to command the independent companies. The independent companies were redesignated as Cavalry Commando Squadrons and later Commando Squadrons and were attached to the divisions during operations in New Guinea and Borneo.
– 2/6th Cavalry Commando Regiment – 2/7, 2/9 and 2/10 Commando Squadrons
– 2/7th Cavalry Commando Regiment – 2/3, 2/5 and 2/6 Commando Squadrons
– 2/9th Cavalry Commando Regiment – 2/4, 2/11 and 2/12 Commando Squadrons
The 2/1st Independent Company was never reformed after being decimated in 1941. The 2/2nd and the 2/8th retained separate identities throughout the war.
M & Z Special Units
After the beginning of the Pacific War, Special Operations Australia (SOA), a branch of the Allied Intelligence Bureau also formed two multinational, combined forces commando units: M Special Unit (primarily a coastwatching unit) and the more famous Z Special Unit (also known as Z Force), for Allied covert operations in the South West Pacific Area.
Z Force distinguished itself in Operation Jaywick, in which the unit posed as an Asian fishing boat crew, to infiltrate Singapore Harbour, where it mined and destroyed four Japanese ships, amounting to 39,000 tons, in September 1943. However, in 1944 the similar but larger Operation Rimau, which also targeted shipping at Singapore Harbour, resulted in the loss of all 23 personnel involved.
SOA used the ‘cover’ of the Inter Allied Services Department (IASD or often ISD) and sent 81 small parties to Japanese occupied territories, between 1942 and August 1945. These parties, with enthusiastic local recruits in Borneo, harassed the Japanese and probably killed more of them than did the invasions of the 7th and 9th Divisions in 1945. Australian losses were 69 dead and missing.
After the war – the Commando legacy
After the war, the commando units were disbanded. During the 1950s the Army realised it needed the skills possessed by the WW2 units.
Two reserve commando companies were raised: 2 Commando Company in Melbourne in February 1955 and 1 Commando Company in Sydney in June 1955.
From 1957, some members of these joined the new Australian Special Air Service Regiment (SAS), when it was raised. However the commando units retained a separate identity, with a greater emphasis on raiding and other larger offensive operations, rather than the special reconnaissance and Surgical Strike role which is the classic function of SAS units.
In February 1981, it was decided to unite the commando companies with a headquarters unit and link them with Special Operations Headquarters (SOHQ). 1 Commando Regiment was formed.
In 1996, it was decided to convert 4th Battalion, Royal Australian Regiment (4 RAR) from a light infantry battalion to a commando unit. 4RAR was renamed 4 RAR (Cdo).
In May 2003, Special Operations Command (Australia) was established as the administrative and operational headquarters for all of Australia’s Special Forces and commando units.
Fantastic website. Lots of helpful info here. I am sending it to a few buddies ans additionally sharing in delicious. And obviously, thank you in your sweat
Interested in finding any information or photos on my Uncle – Private Dempsey Mogan who served in 2/8 independent commandos in World War 2.
Returned and lived in Glen Innes,NSW and died in 1955.
Thank you.
Garrie, can you please contact me?
Thank you,
Danika
Very interesting! Always great to find out more information regarding the commando units. My grandfather Viv Vaughan served in the 2/4th Independent Company and I would
Any further information you may have.
Hi Ian, my father Denison Deasey also served in the 2/4th Independent Company. The book on the unit, “Commandoes: From Tidal River to Tarakan” has heaps of helpful info.
Interested in any information about Edwin Joseph McGuinness 2/3 Commando unit [ father ] fought in New Caledonia, New Guinea, Bornea. Photos of the unit, articles etc
Thanks in advance
would like more info on nz divisions camped here
In April 1942, my father, Walter Pollock, was seconded to the 1st Independent Company, under the command of Major Fearon. Originally trained in northern Malaya, this Company fought a rearguard action against the Japanese down the Malayan Peninsula from December 1941 until their capture in February 1942. The structure and purpose of the Australian Independent companies makes for very similar reading to what I have gleaned from the meagre information I have about the Independent Company dad was with. I presume that there would be relevant information at the Australian War Memorial about these Australian Independent Companies (https://www.awm.gov.au/units/unit_13311.asp), including their training manuals and other such material, which could give me some further insight as my father died when I was quite young.
Hi John, my father also died when i was quite young and i have been hunting down his war records recently. I found a lot of stuff missing from the AWM but the Public Records Office and the National Archives has it so look there if you can’t find it on AWM. See if you can find the company he was in and then the book written on that company. There are some really good ones out there. My dad was in 2/4 IC.
Louisa
Thanks for your reply and sorry that I didn’t get to see it until now.
My father was actually British and I have his military record from the UK, so its more what I can find out about the role and structure of the Australian Independent Companies themselves (and how they may have related to the structure of the Independent Company that dad was in during the early part of WWII in Malaya). I see that you have provided a contact for the Commando Association of Victoria, so will give them a go.
Thanks gain.
John
trying to find someone who was in the 2/5 commando unit
my dad has passed and there are not many left.
Has anyone got any info please
I have just done some research for a lady from WA whose father was in the 2/5th.
Hello,
I would live to know more about the 2/5
Any chance you could share info
Hi Rosemary. Only just discovered this site. My dad was Harold Maskell and was in the 2/5th Commando Reg. He passed away at 62 yrs. I was so glad to be able to read the book “Double Black” by Andy Pirie. Much info in that book.
My Uncle John Morris WX15304 was in the 2/4 and he was K.I.A. at Lae during the landing on the 4th Sept.1943. While I have a copy of his service record etc. I would really like to know if there is any information about the landing in the book “Commando – From Tidal River to Tarakan. Unfortunatley I cannot find a copy in any of the Libraries in WA and the cost when you can find a copy for sale is out of my reach. Any help would be really appreciated.
Kind Regards
Corinne Ridley
Corinne:
I don’t have the book either, but the operation is described here: Official WW2 History Vol 6 Ch 12
https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/RCDIG1070185/
cheers, Garrie
Hi Corinne,
Sorry this is not related to your request but my Aunt was a girlfriend of your Uncles (and he was also a good friend of my fathers) and I have letters that he wrote home to her whilst he was at war if you are interested in them. I also have a nice photo of him.
Kind regards
Lee McAullay
Corinne, there are 80 photos at Aust War Memorial of 2/4 th see https://www.awm.gov.au/advanced-search?collection=true&facet_type=Photograph&facet_related_units=2/4%20Cavalry%20Commando%20Squadron also the war diaries for that period. Email me and I will send the war diary of the time of his KIA as it is a big file.
Corrine, not sure if the last reply got to you but I have some info on you uncle who was the boy friend af my late aunty who passed away only a couple of weeks ago. John or Johny as he was known as by my father Leo who was a close mate of his. I have a couple of letters and some trench art and a large photo of him. I’d like to give the items to his family.We live in Singleton WA Please feel free to email me on Lee.mcaullay@hotmail.com or ring 0417983700 regards Lee.
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Corinne,
try this source: https://www.ebay.com.au/c/96359972.
My father was in the 2/2 and was reinforced by 2/4 in Timor in September 1942.
Hi Corinne,
I don’t have the book but i tracked down a copy at the State Library Victoria. I also contacted the Commando Association Vic and they were very helpful in telling me where and how my dad (in 2/4) served. They also have a copy of the book. I recommend emailing them and putting what you just wrote above in the text I’m sure they would be happy to help – doesn’t matter that you’re in WA. The secretary is the daughter of a 2/4er. Louisa
TheSecretary@AustCdoAssocVic.com
Hello everyone. My comment or request relates to the 2/5 where my dad served. I have been trying to find anyone who may be left soldiering on. My Dad would have been 94 and i am guessing many others are two. If anyone was in the 2/5 or perhaps their dad was I would love to hear from them
cheers and thanks in advance
Rosemary
Hey there Rosemary,
My father was 2/5th Double Black and was very much involved with the guys of the 2/5th throughout his life. His name was Phil Hunt and resided in Sydney, NSW. What state are you from?
Regards,
Tricia Hunt
Hello.
I dont remember seeing this reply before, sorry.
I am in SA and would love to share information
Rosemary
Hi Rosemary. I have only just discovered this site although I knew about Wilsons Prom memorial. My dad was in the 2/5th Commando Unit. I was glad to read the book “Double Black” by Andy Pirie. Knew some of the stories dad talked about in the book. Dad passed away at 62 yrs.
Hi,
You are lucky to have stories. My dad came back almost dead and when he improved they sent him to Maralinga. I cant seem to find much and he didnt share at all. Love to hear your stories
Rosemary
Hi. I am interested in the photo above. First cadre on the beach Tidal River L-R Capt Paul Kneen, Capt…. Are you able to identify the rest of the men as it doesn’t show with the photo? A relative of mine, Jack Jarrett, was in the 1st Independent Co and died on the Monte Video Maru. I have seen a similar photo taken on the beach while they were training but can not identify the men so would be interested to see who these were.
Cheers
Kim
First cadre to train at Wilson’s Prom: l-r, Capt Paul Kneen (2/5th KIA 1 July 1942); Capt Alan Spence 2/2nd); Lt Jack Burns (21/1); Lt Frank Sleeman (2/1st) Lt Jack Mackie (2/1st) Capt Lex Fraser (2/1); Lt Baldy Baldwin (2/2). (Pic from Mick Sheehan)
Dad is 95 years old
Major Edward Frederick Byrne of the 2/7th Commandos
He lives on my wife and my farm at Broken Head near Byron Bay.
He was awarded a Military Cross and Mentioned in Despatches
I think he is the only Commando from WW 2 alive.
Would you please advise or get back to me. My mobile is 0488880017
Regards
Edward (Ted) Christopher Byrne
Ted, Keith Johnson 2/10 is alive and well in Melbourne as is Dixie Lee from M Special.
is there anyone left from my dads unit, the 2/5 that you know of
My Dad was in 2/7 Independent Commandos and I took him down to Wilson’s Prom and to see the memorial in 1974, when he visited me in Melbourne from Brisbane. His name was Andrew Keith Chambers, known as Curly Chambers. He died in August 1977. I would like to know if there are any photos of his unit. Many thanks. Adrienne Dickson (nee Chambers)
Adrienne, yes we have a few as well as article on unit etc. We are upgrading our ACAVIC website currently and these will all be posted and available then. Hopefully we will also enable folks to upload photos and documents to share. Regards Doug
Hi Doug
Thanks for your reply.
Would you have any details for contacting Keith? Regards Ted Byrne
Alas very sadly Keith has passed away.
Dad passed away on 8 August 2017. I miss him every day. He had spent 20 years living at my wife’s and my farm and then his last couple of months in Sydney near my family. His last 3 weeks were at Mona Vale Hospital where I stayed in his room with him. My son, Luke, marched every year on Anzac Day since he was 2 years old with him and still marches every Anzac Day on his and his men’s behalf. We have hundreds of photos as my wife would run ahead and photograph everyone. Regards Ted
Ted. The Aust Cdo Assn website is being upgraded and will soon be available to the and will have resources and materials there as well as seeking input from families etc. Keep your eye out. I will post detailsl on FB and here when we go live.
Hi Ted, would your dad have any recollection of a Corporal Walter EBELL of 2/7 who enlisted in Darwin and was posted to New Guinea, killed 9 July 1943 in New Guinea and buried in Lae. Any information on postings / battles / etc at that time greatly appreciated. Thankyou.
Hi Cathi, As my dad was in the 2/7 I have a lot of information on most of these soldiers. My summary of Corporal Ebell is the following: ‘DX664 Corporal Ebell, W. E.
KILLED IN ACTION 9TH JULY 1943
(Born in Rangoon, Burma in May 1914 Corporal Walter Edward Ebell was in Darwin in late December 1941 where he was entrained to Victoria. Between the 7th and the 21st of January, he was granted leave, possibly to see his family at Oakleigh in Melbourne. From 22/1/42 to 23/5/42 he was with the 6th Training Battalion (Camp Darley) and the 34th Training Battalion (Watsonia Army Camp). During that time, he was ‘despatched on a special mission from the 25th April to the 7th May’ and he was promoted to Acting Corporal on the 13th April. He reverted to Private soon after. Corporal Ebell was posted to the Guerrilla Warfare School on the 23rd May 1942. He joined the 7th Section B Platoon of the 2/7 Ind Coy on the 20th September, as a Private. After the airlift from Townsville to New Guinea he was again promoted to Corporal on the 4th January 1943. He was wounded in action with shrapnel wounds to his head, chest and his left thumb on the 15th February and was evacuated to the 2/2 Field Ambulance, then to the 2/9 A.G.H. in Port Moresby, then to the 11 Convalescent Depot, then the 1st Aust. Recovery Camp before re-joining his unit on the 26th March 1943. At the headwaters of the Ramu and Markham Rivers, New Guinea, Corporal Ebell was buried when he was killed in action on the 9th July 1943. This soldier was later reburied at Grave 02 Row C Lae War Cemetery)’
Trusting this is of interest to you. R.I.P. Walter.
Heather, this is amazing thankyou so much! That fills in a few pieces of the puzzle. I have been trying to find whether there is any record of how he was killed on 9th July, whether in a skirmish, battle or accident…Have tried to read up on PNG war incidents around that time but haven’t been able to come up with a clear conclusion. His war records (from recall) didn’t appear to shed any obvious light on what happened or where he was posted at that time, but it may be I’m not familiar enough with military records to properly understand the information in them (or between the lines)….
Really appreciate your further information and respect for his service 🙂
Cathi
Hi Heather, I am replying to your reply to Cathi. My father was also in the 2/7th Independent Company and I am trying to find out as much as I can and wondered whether you had any information on my Dad. His name was Andrew Keith Chambers, but he was called Keith and was nicknamed Curly. Many thanks. Regards, Adrienne Dickson (nee Chambers).
See this record for Andrew Keith Chambers NX115165 https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/ViewImage.aspx?B=5653841
Thank you for this link, but I already have this information. It was very kind of you to send it though. Stay safe and thank you again.
Regards,
Adrienne
Hi Ted, my dad was Leigh Graham McMillan, but everyone called him Gerry. He was with the 2/7th Commando unit. He lived to be 75 with five children from near Deniliquin, NSW. An extremely good report of the 2/7th is Conrad Bell (also from the 2/7th – I have met him). I have only just recently, today is the 22nd July 2018, found a photo of the 2/7th with my dad in it. Our family have a photo of dad posing at Wilsons Prom. Dad retained the secrecy of this secret unit to his grave, oh, except for when the other Commando’s gathered. I am on 0411846309 and I live in north Queensland. Cheers, Heather McMillan
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Hi Rosemary, My dad was a 2/5th but he has also passed away. What was your fathers surname,
Tricia Hunt
James Thompson Butler was his name. He continued to serve after they came back and spent time at Maralinga. He went to Vietnam twice and was medically discharged before his death.
Did you have much information, did your dad talk much. Mine didnt, perhaps because he to went to to see other horrid things in Vietnam. I was the same as most of us, I didnt have enough sense to question him when he was alive and now its way to late.
My number is 0427710862 if you want to ring and I will ring you back. You are the first contact I have found. love to talk to you
My father Joe Hancock, trained at Wilsons Prom with the 2/8th, and spent time at Adelaide River NT, but went back to Canungra and released from service from a Brisbane hospital in 1944. Latter info not on official records which I obtained. Where can I find out IF he was involved in M force which appears likely ? From Tassy TX6644 only had one contact from the 2/8th Tom King. Tom went OS with the 2/8th . Dad did not.
Hi Robert, my dad trained at Tidal River in 1940/41 and also guarded the Adelaide River. He was in 2/4. He got sent back on the train before 2/4 went to Timor in 41. Did you know you can request the repatriation records from the National Archives? It might give you some more info on why he was in Brisbane Hospital. Took me a long time to even find which company my dad was in.
In the end, i found him on the nominal roll in the book “From Tidal River to Terakan”.
Also have you searched the AWM online info on that company extensively? I did, and even found a photo of dad in a camp in NT – he wasn’t named, but i could recognise him!
Family history research on Walter EBELL 2/7 Independant Company, killed in action in New Guinea 9 July 1943. Any photos of the time, or information on battles at this time much appreciated
Cathi, send me an email an dI can send you some info to assist in your search.
Hi Doug, thanks for your reply, which email address should I send it to?
Cathi, dougknight@bigpond.com
Regards Doug
Cathi, send me an email and I can send you some info to assist in your search.
I have a photo of 2/4th Commando Sqadron G Section taken 6th Oct 1945 in Tarakan. Would you like a copy for the archive
Thanks Kerry – if you send it to me I’ll post it here.
My father-in-law was Lt. Col. John Charles Mawhood. Some very interesting tales.
Brian, please see below about forthcoming educational audio-visual training package and we are seeking info on Tidal River training and personalities especially your grandfather and would appreciate any assistance you may be able to provide
My father Wally Scott was a member of the 2/7 th independant company. His CO was Major McCaddie .Dad always maintained the CO was the maddest man in their group.
Hi Jim, as I have mentioned further up with these comments, my dad came home from the war luckily after being with the 2/7th Commando unit. His name was (he died in 1997 unfortunately) Leigh Graham McMillan (always called Gerry though). Four Commando’s came to his funeral in Deniliquin, now THAT was something, they sat up with the coffin in all their finery. One of these men was Con Bell. I did have the chance to listen to some interesting stories dad shared (and some not so interesting as scary!!!). But he lived and I am pleased, he was a top person. Cheers, Heather McMillan – north Queensland
I have a copy of “Commando, Double Black” by Anyy Pirie but would like to obtain another copy of two for my children. Does anyone know of any plans to do another print run of this excellent book?
Out of print books are often very expensive.Try ebay one for $50 and one $235
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/COMMANDO-DOUBLE-BLACK-Historical-Narrative-of-2-5-Aust-Independent-Coy-Military/173405365688?hash=item285fc3e5b8%3Ag%3AguAAAOSwTbVa9qLM&_sacat=0&_nkw=Commando%2C+Double+Black%E2%80%9D+by+Anyy+Pirie+&_from=R40&rt=nc&_trksid=m570.l1313
Thanks for the advice. I obtained the copy I already have from eBay and would’ve liked to get another, in a good condition, for a reasonable price. I may have to bite the bullet and just pay up! it’s a real shame that there hasn’t been another print run.
Know exactly what you mean. I wanted to buy a couple of extra copies of “We Were the First’ by A McNab (history of 1st Independent Co- our first commandos) also out of print. Was lucky a copy came up in ebay recently for $70 as the only others were $300 and $150(was about to buy this one from site below)
This site http://www.bspgallery.com.au/military%20k-z.htm has a signed copy of “Commando Double Black” for $75. Bought my first McNabb book from here. Was in great condition but price has gone up since then as it gets harder to find.
Good luck!
Great site, very interesting. My father Ron Jackson, VX64854 was a member of 2/6 Australian Commandos and servred with them until the end of WWII.
Folks, the memorial has again been refreshed with the names of recent Commandos who have died on operations and some minor amendments to plaque details to reflect some mistakes made on originals. The annual Commando Commemorative activity will take place at Tidal River on Sunday 18 November and all are invited. The Australian Commando Association-Victoria is hosting this activity and it commences around 1145. Special mention will be made of Operation JAYWICK as this year is the 75th Anniversary of their heroic raid into Singapore Harbour in 1943 by predominantly RAN members of the Services Reconnaissance Department (SRD)..
My Dad, Major Edward Frederick Byrne of the 2/ 7th Commandos, passed away on 8 August 2017. Dearly missed and loved. He was awarded a Military Cross and Mentioned in Dispatches. Please post a reply if any information is wanted. Regards Ted Byrne
That reminds me that there was an 12″ LP record issued of the commemoration/dedication ceremony of 1964 (date/year?). Dad had a copy but it’s whereabouts are now unknown.
Hello Mr Chisolm,(
Not all all sure who to ask. There a number of photographs on the website from the 2/5th. Do you know if there were any group photos or individuals taken at the time. My Dad (James Thompson Butler 15309) was is the 2/5th and we have no photos at all. Just wondering if there were more than what shows on the web anywhere. My dad was one of those who didn’t talk. He did two tours in Vietnam and still kept it in.
Thanks and hoping
Rosemary
Hi Rosemary,
I imagine you’ve read “Commando, Double Black” which has quit a few photos. Unfortunately, photos don’t seem to be thick on the ground. My dad, Wal, mentioned many ago that he took quite a few photos during his service but that he gave them away.
Whether this is correct or not but he also said that some of his photos ended up in “Commando, Double Black”.
Hi Rosemary, the info you provided i.e no 15309 and name is not sufficient. There is no entry in National Archives for James Thompson Butler 15309 in WW2. Do you have his medals as they will have a number on it i.e. NX15309 and the name he used for enlistment. Without this info it is hard to research. What was his date of birth and did he go my another name or nickname?
Thank you for replying. I have Regimental number S59872,SX15495 and 15309
Date of birth 12th December 1922 (1920 also recorded)
Lietenant Colonel Neil C. Smith AM Read, also found for me his service outline and I have scanned it in and attached to this email.
I promise he really was in WW2
Yes we do have his medals but my brother ( QLD) has most of the originals, my sister has the original BEM and I have mainly copies without numbers that I had made for my sons and grandsons to wear when marching. My grandson, now 11 has marched every year since he started school.
I do not understand all the enlistments over the first twelve months but I have no reason to doubt mr Smith.
We do not have a single photograph from any of the conflicts.
Heres hoping
Rosemary
Rosemary, Thanks and I have no doubt about his service but trying to get all info to follow up. I know Neil Smith very well and he does excellent work on Official records however we in ACA also have some personnel records etc of unit/squadron members that may bear more light. I will follow up further. I didn’t get the attachment and can you send it to me at dougknight88@gmail.com and I will have a looked at what we have. Also can you include a direct email so I can return any documents or picture I may find.
Hi All
Just a note to say that my book on discovering my late father’s life (and service in Commando unit 2/4 in 1941 + 1942) is published today by Scribe. There is a chapter on dad’s time in the Commandos in NT. You might find it interesting – it will be in libraries if you can’t buy it. I’m also giving library talks about the research, including a 10-page typed memoir I found of his service in 2/4 which mentions what they all went through in NT.
It’s called A Letter From Paris. I’m doing a chat at Frankston Library on the 18th October.
http://louisadeasey.com/a-letter-from-paris/
Louisa, Thanks and have bought a copy for Aust Commando Association library. Once I ahve read the book I may contact you. Regards Doug
Thank you, Doug! Yes, don’t hesitate to get in contact. Louisa
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Thanks for the fantastic information on this site.
My grandfather, Lt. William J E Leach, aka Ed, was a trainer at the Guerrilla Warfare School at Foster and then at Canungra. Apart from his military records I can’t find any other mention of him online so I’m not sure exactly what role he played. Does the name ring a bell in any of the books that have been mentioned?
Thanks
Chris, ACA would be very interested in any details you may have on your grandfathers time and any pictures at Tidal Rive rand Canungra for our current project and long term history site.
HI, I found your grandfather as VX101984 but his file was not yet cleared. Do you have a copy as we would be very interested in nay info for the educational video currently being produced for use at Tidal River National Park.
Folks, The Aust. Commando Assoc.Vic. recently have received a grant from Vic. Veterans Council and are currently developing an audio-visual training package for Education personnel at Tidal River to address Australian Defence activities (Commando and Radar Station) at The Prom during WW2. This will be delivered to the many primary and secondary students who visit the Parkas well as local and international visitors. We would be very interested in obtaining personnel info and photos of personnel who undertook training or were trainers at Tidal River. All known printed Commando Unit history books, pamphlets etc have been provided to developers and it is unpublished materials we seek, particularly for Commando trainees who came from the local area. Please forward any materials or queries to me at dougknight@bigpond.com or president@austcdoassocvic.com
My name is Helene Doolan and I am currently researching my father’s war journey. He was in the 2/6 Australian Commando Squadron. His name is Fredrick John Winkle. Any information would be appreciated. I would like some advise about where to go to find his patrol reports? I have read some of his reports in books so I know that they exist. Thanking you for your help.
Helene, try and get hold of a copy of Purple Devils: History of 2/6 Australian Commando Squadron. Melbourne, Victoria: 2/6 Commando Squadron Association. ISBN 0-646-07125-4. by Trigellis-Smith, Syd (1992) as this will be a useful first reference. Unfortunately my copy is on loan at the moment so I’m unable to check if there is any reference to your dad. Do you have these service records from the National archives. If not just drop me an email at Dougknight88@gmail.com all forwarded to you a lot along with any other records that we hold regarding the 2/6th. Good luck with your Inquiries. regards Doug
Dear Doug,
Thank you for your response. I do have a copy of the Purple Devils and I also have his service record and also of the 2/6 army diaries. If you have any other information I would be most appreciative.Regards Helene Doolan
Please keep up the great work helping those that need a hand to access material.
My local MP even tried to get more access to my fathers info without success TX6644 Joe Hancock 2/8. We only have the archive data which does not match his movements.
Is there a service at Tidal River this year, as I would love to see your work.
Rob, yes we will be at Tidal River on 17 November around 1145 for ceremony and it will be a big event with some heavy ADF hitters this year.My commando reference books are currently on loan and will be getting them back on Friday. Can you send me his WW2 Service Record and I will see what I can do. Regards
My father was Walter Sidney (Bill) Jones .(aka “Happy”) .of 2/8 Commando Squadron . Lived at Drummoyne N.S.W. He passed away in 1961, the last of his line. Brother Norman Jones of 8th Division lost, brother Robert Leonard Frederick Jones , air force , 30 Squadron shot down over Celibes. I would begrateful if anyone had ANY information or photos of my father (or his brothers) .
Sandy Arnott. (sandyarnott@yahoo.com).
He was in 2/6 Independent Company